Phoenix movie ending discussion

Dark phoenix is seemingly wrapping up the current slate of xmen films with its june 7 release. This story contains major spoilers for dark phoenix, including a discussion of the ending. The story eventually turns into a heistgonewrong movie but even then has enough twists to keep the interest. When the movie about a queer black classical musician mahershala ali and his italianamerican chauffeur viggo mortensen driving through the jim crow south in the. But that doesnt mean fans havent gone wild speculating about the scenes. Was entirely previz so probably cut for budget and impact of the space phoenix. Aside from the small technical details which shouldnt bother anyone who can realize why they were actually in the movie, phoenix is a masterfully crafted film with a great soundtrack, which really sets the mood for every scene, great performances, especially from nina hoss and above all, a literally stunning ending which is open to. After dark phoenix, 20th century foxs xmen universe will never be the same, and thats not just because the disneyfox merger brought said universe to an abrupt end. Franchise producer hutch parker has revealed the teams decision to switch the conclusion to the movie which stars sophie turner as jean grey which saw its release. Jun 07, 2019 the movie was a brutal and unforgiving mix of comedy, violence, sex and profanity that paved the way for another xcharacter on our list to go the rrated route as well. Theres some interesting discussion to be had around how this film invokes, and. Phoenix is a 1998 american crime film directed by british director danny cannon and starring ray liotta. A smoky duet between doublebass and piano at the start of christian petzolds phoenix promises a dose of film noir.

With nina hoss, ronald zehrfeld, nina kunzendorf, trystan putter. What joaquin phoenix really loved about the joker ending. Nov 14, 2019 even before the todd phillipsdirected film hit theaters there was much discussion about the film and whether or not it promoted violence. Oct 04, 2019 theres been no shortage of conversation around todd phillips and joaquin phoenixs movie but until now, as is so often the case online, few people had actually seen it. In the movie, quiet 16yearold elf ian voiced by tom holland is bestowed a wizards staff and spell to bring back his father, who died before he was born, so ian and his funloving 19yearold.

The movie was a brutal and unforgiving mix of comedy, violence, sex and profanity that paved the way for another xcharacter on our list to go the rrated route as well. Not like how windows xp became windows vista, no, that would be the opposite. Even by its own metric where in the opening voice over, jean grey sophie turner. After the disneyfox buyout, no one can really be certain just where our favorite mutants are headedunless of course. Oct 15, 2014 after hearing from grant fritchey that anyone who wants to know what devops really means should read this claire brooking picked up a copy of the phoenix project. Everything about it is a breathless whisper, from the sultry saxophone solo that backs the films opening scene, to the quietly devastating closing song, is a study in doing lots with little.

The ending of dark phoenix explained film school rejects. Dark phoenix, the discussion has been dominated by what might have been the culmination of foxs xmen franchise. I think what mesmerized me were the stunningly filmed scenes and actors. I tend to disagree with fans on the internet comparing this show to nirvana in fire, or even game of thrones. Nelly nina hoss, a germanjewish nightclub singer, has survived a concentration camp, but with her face disfigured by a bullet wound. Harry always wakes up before he finds out what the dream means or what the spheres signify. Phoenix forgotten 2017 ending scene explainedtheory. A cop liotta with a gambling addiction plots a theft from the bookies who are putting pressure on him to pay off or else. Unrecognizable to johnny, nelly befriends him to find out whether he betrayed her to the nazis. These are just two of the questions addressed by christian petzolds masterful phoenix, a film that firmly cements its director as one of the most impressive working today. Dark phoenix is the end of an era for the second xman film franchise. Joker has been picked apart since before it even hit theaters, but the movies ending, in particular, has generated a lot of discussion. Collect bonus rewards from our many partners, including amc, stubs, cinemark connections, regal crown club.

But when we started to catch glimpses of the possible love triangle between josh, sophie and mark i began to wonder, oh, maybe the police detective was right. Dark phoenix changed after reshoots to give the film a totally different ending. Obviously, hes the director, its his movie, and hes the definitive source on what he meant by the ending. Jean grey begins to develop incredible powers that corrupt and turn her into a dark phoenix, causing the xmen to decide if her life is worth more than all of humanity. At the end of the corridor, harry goes through several doors and enters a room full of dusty glass spheres. As dark phoenix ends the xmen movie era, we rank all 12. The ending moments of dark phoenix conclude a 19year saga, and. Oct 15, 2014 a smoky duet between doublebass and piano at the start of christian petzolds phoenix promises a dose of film noir.

Joaquin phoenix is happy people dont agree on jokers ending. We break down the finale in the context of the movie and the entire. The entirety of the movie seemed to be 100% on board with the fact that the prime mover of this movie was alien lights. Why joaquin phoenix is the creepiest joker at this point, it seems that the only certainty regarding jokers ending is that as time passes, well continue to have even more theories about what took place. The era of the 20th century foxmen sorry, not sorry is over. Franchise producer hutch parker has revealed the teams decision to switch the conclusion to the movie which stars sophie turner as jean grey which saw its release date pushed back from november 2018 to this month. While there isnt any violence, and both sex and drinking are extremely minimal, there is a fair amount of language, including one fing. Harry potter and the order of the phoenix analysis shmoop.

The final chess game between magneto and professor x is a callback to past xmen films. Its a romantic dramedy, but it tackles faithbased questions. Liotta plays a cop whose gambling debt leaves him indebted to the underworld and desperate to find a way out without compromising his principles. Theres some interesting discussion to be had around how this film invokes, and also inverts, noir tropes. The apparent end for the predisney xmovies could have come sooner, though. Oct 07, 2019 joker is a movie where people can interpret the ending and ultimately what it means in different ways and for joaquin phoenix. The story is set in the future where operating systems have gotten tremendously better. The return from the ashes by french author hubert monteilhet, the film stars nina hoss and ronald zehrfeld as nelly and johnny lenz, respectively phoenix is set in germany in the aftermath of world war ii, where nelly, a jew who managed to survive auschwitz. The latest xmen movie dark phoenix is a frustrating end for a frustrating franchise. It was to let people know it was a different movie.

I hate that old trope of a person pushing someone back when she could easily of launched him into outer space. The new film phoenix is a weird, haunting tale about. Dark phoenix is a movie that doesnt really work on any level. That promise is complicated, if not exactly broken, by what follows. After a reconstructive facial operation, concentrationcamp survivor nelly lenz tracks down her husband, johnny, who believes shes dead. The chess metaphor is a longrunning one that appears in five xmen films. And while discussion among the films fanbase is an interesting way to gain more insight, its particularly interesting to see what the man who actually played arthur fleck. As soon as the main plot thread appeared i wanted to detest this film for the absurd coincidence, pathetic interpretation of facial reconstruction and for exploiting an infamous suffering for he sake of a yarn.

With echoes of vertigo, and a deeply confident visual language, petzolds film resonates long after its perfect ending. Loosely adapted from the 1961 novel le retour des cendres english. Im deeply saddened that the fox xmen series is coming to an end with such a bad film. A disfigured holocaust survivor sets out to determine if the man she loved betrayed her trust. With dark phoenix switching its ending to the action. In the aftermath of wwii, nelly, a jewish survivor of the auschwitz concentration camp, horribly disfigured from a bullet wound in her face, undergoes a series of facial reconstruction surgeries and decides to find her husband johnny who works at the phoenix club in berlin. Back in march it was announced that 20th century fox had pushed back xmen. Joker director todd philips comments on ambiguous ending. Dark phoenix reshoots gave movie totally different ending. The film has an unconventional structure which begins with loosely associated scenes, then it starts to gel and just when you think you understand where its going the scenes start to lose their associations again.

Joker star joaquin phoenix reveals his own theory about the. Harry continues to have upsetting dreams about walking down a corridor at the department of mysteries, deep inside the ministry of magic. Heres what it means for the future of the franchise. Heres what the movies ending means for both dark phoenix and the future of the xmen franchise. Thats basically the plot, it seems simple but it is enough to drive the film s core once it has. Dark phoenix from its original november 2nd 2018 release date to february 14th 2019, which was followed by a. The expectations set by the past few xmen movie is simply astronomical. Its an unpredictable and creative film with a really curious ending.

To help steer discussion weve added a lengthy analysis of the shutter island ending and an explanation of why our analysis of the film fits with the story scorsese intended to tell. The rise of phoenixes kept me hooked from start to finish, and for me this is a serious act of binge watching, but. She was to have a massive fight with onslaughts of the aliens that were coming out of the rubble ending with her disintegrating then all after being stabbed with the pole. Beyond the masterful suspense that the film retains throughout the duration of its runtime, its also strong thematically. Jun 10, 2019 5 dark phoenix trailer shots that didnt make the movie s final cut.

Instead of a femme fetale pretending to be something. Joaquin phoenix won a golden globe for the movie, and hes also nominated for an oscar for the role. Unlike the phoenix referred to in the films title, its pretty much guaranteed that none of these specific characters or storylines will be picked up in. The return from the ashes by french author hubert monteilhet, the film stars nina hoss and ronald zehrfeld as nelly and johnny lenz, respectively. This film is not as crazy but its a pretty cool concept. I think the opening scene with the rescue mission and the ending scene with the cool chess callback were the only standouts. Jul 24, 2015 these are just two of the questions addressed by christian petzolds masterful phoenix, a film that firmly cements its director as one of the most impressive working today. Tense, complex, and drenched in atmosphere, phoenix is a wellacted, smartly crafted war drama that finds writerdirector christian petzold working at peak power. The openended conclusion to joker is reminiscent of taxi driver, which has been cited as an influence by director todd phillips. The xmen are a superhero team of mutants founded by professor charles xavier.

Xmen paved the way for the later successes of the mcu. Back in 2017, ew talked to chastain about her mysterious villain role in dark phoenix and she wouldnt spill the beans. Even before the todd phillipsdirected film hit theaters there was much discussion about the film and whether or not it promoted violence. Jun 07, 2019 heres what the movies ending means for both dark phoenix and the future of the xmen franchise. This movie, phoenix forgotten 2017, really was well received by many audiences. The final chess game between magneto and professor x is a callback to past x men films. Phoenix is a 2014 german drama film directed by christian petzold. Wow, i was in tears for almost the entire last five minutes of this film.

The movie her is directed by spike jonze who gave us being john malkovich. Parents need to know that the good catholic is about an idealistic young priest faced with a choice between his calling and what might be true love. They are dedicated to helping fellow mutants and sworn to protect a world that fears and hates them. The film concludes the 19year xmen franchise with a quiet scene. Doesnt the ending of this movie render that null and void. Joker star joaquin phoenix reveals his own theory about. As the fifth book in a sevenbook series, harry potter and the order of the phoenix has to tie off all of the major plot arcs of the novel harrys resentment and anger at being in the spotlight, his estrangement from dumbledore and his friends, and the corruption of the ministry of magic while still leaving. And how could anyone buy that jean couldnt stop logan from advancing. Dark phoenix will arrive in theaters on june 7 to formally close foxs xmen franchise. Early reactions to dark phoenix paint it as a deeply.

Unless sansa jean is supposedly older here and theyve surpassed that end. Get your swag on with discounted movies to stream at home, exclusive movie gear, access to advanced screenings and discounts galore. Joker is a movie where people can interpret the ending and ultimately what it means in different ways and for joaquin phoenix. We had long discussions with producers, and they said, we have to see the destroyed face. Now working a menial job in a cabaret club called phoenix, johnny doesnt. This parable of an it project on the brink of destruction is told with humor and insight. This story contains major spoilers for captive state, including a discussion of the ending.

So im choosing to make sense of jokers curious final scenes. Jun 07, 2019 this story contains major spoilers for dark phoenix, including a discussion of the ending. Rating is available when the video has been rented. In todays video we discuss the phoenix forgotten 2017 ending scene explained. Captive state, a movie set in a dystopian posthuman version of america, isnt content with conforming. That is also the reason why they called it dark phoenix instead of xmen. Then they mismarketed it as a grande finale where the xmen will have their greatest battle, despite it being intentionally made to be a smaller scale movie. Beyond the masterful suspense that the film retains throughout the duration of its runtime, its also strong. Theres been no shortage of conversation around todd phillips and joaquin phoenixs movie but until now, as is so often the case online, few people had actually seen it.